Wednesday, July 26, 2006
It's a Real Estate Deal, Stupid
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Whenever I hear one side demonized I question the scholarship and historical knowledge of the speaker.
Some accurate "one-sided information": Hezbollah is on record and has never denied that they will not rest until Israel ceases to exist. They do not show Israel on any of their maps. So you would have a very difficult time getting them to sit down and divide up the real estate. The Brown Shirts in Germany also did a lot of good things for the "pure" Germans. But the elimination of the Jews was always a stated committment.
It was Hezbollah that was firing the random missles into Israel before this recent horror began.
The Israelies are not innocent. Just as Palestinian school books speak terrible things about the Jews, so do the Isrealie grade school books talk about the "dirty Arabs" and the threat they present.
Now if you check your history of the region from after the First World War, you will see there were no Palestinians, but only wandering Bedouin tribes. At the time when the English said "we're handing over everything in the area to the jews, there were many Arabs living in what would become Israel. The top Arab leader urged all Arabs to leave, saying they would come back with a great Arab army and drive out the jews. It didn't happen. Then many who had left said that they wanted back in after all, but were denied because they had left.
What you have now is the exact same thing that has existed in Ireland for so long, and caused so much death and hatred. It is to the advantage of people extraneous to the area to keep both sides filled with hatred of each other. The British originally did it when they set up many of the political boundaries after World War One. Their desire, and the end result, was to have everyone in the region at each others throats so the British could keep the power. This is exactly what they did to conquer and control India.
I hate what our administration has done everywhere in the Middle East. I hate what it has done to the moral fiber of this country. I am ashamed to be abroad as an American. I feel the hippocracy and the arrogance. And I am not a jew. Actually, I would describe myself as a Buddhist Christian. I have no axe to grind for Israel. But I find your position, uninformed, one-sided, and just as extreme as you (and I) see the Bush Administration. And your position, just like theirs, has no future or solution.
Dear Richard,
I find all of your arguments more than valid; I have been writing and teaching much the same for years.
Perhaps our guest contributor, Leslie Collings, who wrote this piece, will answer your comments soon.
Thank you dropping in and leaving your insightful comments.
Sincerely,
Joseph Bosco
Hi Richard, I appreciate your comments and point of view. Indeed, I'm pleased to note similarities with some of mine, though of course, total agreement is never likely in any long distance discussion. However, let me first make clear that I've not lived in the UK since 1960, when I boarded a ship and emigrated to Australia. Despite having completed military service for my country, I was not at all happy with the place. Over the years since then and while I later moved into Asia, the 'troubles' as the Ireland problem was called, simply emphasised to me the totally ridiculous position of the British government. If I could have made it happen, the British would have left Northern Ireland many years ago and simply said "Here , it's yours, so take it back and look after it yourselves." Israel got a windfall and took it to their hearts immediately. Good for them and anyway, the British again, totally messed up their own foreign policy, with the irresponsible manner in which they carried it all out. I certainly do not regard that period in time as a bench mark for potential change today. No way, but I do consider boundaries closer to those of 1967(but not the same) are as near as anyone will ever get to a real estate solution in that part of the world. Pushing the envelope further, Jerusalem is going to be an intractable problem, no matter how long the debate. My views of Hezbollah are realistic and that Israel openly wants them totally destroyed, is simply the other view and the other side of the coin. The area needs a geographical agreement quickly, about who has what and who lives where so then, possibly, both sides can get on with their own mess. I'm not a political animal and in fact have little respect for any who play that game. My point is that reality must be acknowledged and that despite hate and guns, there must come a time when both sides settle for what is best. As for the 'wall' in Israel? I think Israel is making a mistake and will reap a whirlwind of long term animosity from their neighbour, the Palestinians, while it remains a barrier between both sides. Focus should now be on the root causes and a solution, which is each with their own piece of dirt to do with as they wish and without interference from their neighbour. Neither side will then fire shells, rockets, launch suicide bombers or jet aircraft, as there will be nothing to gain or fight to win. If the USA turns its focus inward and addresses the domestic issues and problems of it's own people and their quality of life, then I believe we will begin to see a new wave of Americans visiting our 'outside world' and being warmly welcomed by all they meet. Yes, it will take time and good leaders, but it can and should occur while we are both still doing our thing! Lastly, I lived for awhile in Thailand and became enamoured with Buddhism. I am also a Christian and value life, care about others and the well being of my family and friends above all else. I too have no time for those who are continuing to make a mess of our world. However, we must both continue to do our best to try making it a better place for others to follow. I wish you all the best in achieving the same goal as myself. Regards, Les Leslie Collings
"I find all of your arguments more than valid; I have been writing and teaching much the same for years."
Where are your writings on this issue? Your lectures?
"For years"? When did this start?
"I find all of your arguments more than valid". As a journalism teacher? As an actor?
What do you know about the Middle East? Have you ever been there? Speak the languages?
You've a wonderful blog when you stick to what you know. This is not a disagreement or agreement with comments made. It is a query about your expertise in this area.
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