Thursday, February 23, 2006
Grounded and Healing
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Heal Up Joe.
We ALL knew you would make it Through.
When You're Rested and Wide-awake, we'll get back to OJ Simpson Case News and..............
No Rush.
And Thank You Ellen for the Good-News Update's about Joe.
Mario G. Nitrini 111
Glad you and Ellen made it safely back...though I hope you still think of this as 'home'. Rest well, you both deserve a break.
My prayers are with you for continued health and a brighter tomorrow.
Bonnie
Hi Joe,
Since You're a "PLAYER" in The OJ Simpson Case, No rest for the Weary (Just Kidding, Kind of).
On IAGO, Jasper Garrison and MOST of his IDIOT Group are Desperately trying to Discredit me and make the RIDICULOUS Connection of Rocky Bateman to Mark Fuhrman. IMPOSSIBLE ON BOTH COUNTS.
You told me a while back that most of Your Information about Rocky came from me.
Since it has been stated that Cathy Randa did the Limousine Booking for OJ Simpson, and you have stated that you talked to Miss Randa in the Past, I have 2 Questions:
1. Did Cathy Randa EVER Mention the name Rocky Bateman to you????
2. And if she DIDN'T, don't you find that INCREDIBLY Odd since Rocky went on CNN in Mid-June, 1995, claiming that he was OJ Simpson's Regular Limousine Driver for over 3 Years????
Thanks Joe,
Hope you're Healing up.
Mario G. Nitrini 111
Joe,
I Need to Address this. This is a Post of Jasper Garrison's Today:
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Re: Mario and Rocky
From: Jasper
Date: February 24, 2006
Time: 04:08 PM
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Sweetpea, …The bag that “O.J. wouldn’t let anybody touch” is the only one that matters. …………The smallest bag that judge Ito allowed into evidence is the one I’ve been referring to here as a “gym bag” because most people are familiar with the dimensions. In the trial it was variously called a tote bag, a duffle bag and a small duffle bag. I referred to it in other posts as a small duffle bag. I call the one I have with roughly the same dimness a “carry-on bag.” I don’t think it has a standardized English Language name. ………….In any event, it’s the bag Marcia played up to imply that the prosecution KNEW where O.J. put the missing items from the murders. It’s the bag she used the LAX skycap James Williams to suggest how O.J. disposed of it. She hinted that O.J. slipped THAT BAG in the trash container near Williams’ podium. It is the only one Marcia could have been referring to when she said the following in her 9-17-‘95 summation: …”You may recall that there was testimony about a small dark bag that was on the edge of the driveway by the Bentley. And Kato, as they were loading up the bags, offered to go and get that bag for him. ‘I'll go get that for you.’ The Defendant said, ‘No, no, no, no, no. I'll get it.’ And the testimony was that all of the bags were loaded by either Kato or Allan Park except for that one. And after the Defendant walked towards it, after saying, ‘No, I'll get it,’ after he walked towards it, no one ever saw that little black, dark bag again. Nor have we ever found the knife the Defendant used nor have we ever found the clothes that he wore during the murder nor have we ever found the shoes that he wore during the murder.” ……….Here’s the good part…O.J. said that he had a small bag that he put his golf ball bag inside of then put in his golf bag. Kato put the golf bag in the trunk with the garment bag. The small bag (not the small duffle bag big enough for Rocky’s “papers”), is the one O.J. told Kato he would get. It wasn’t missing from the bags that went into the limo. It was missing only from the courtroom because Chris Darden and Marcia Clark succeed in having it excluded. That didn’t stop Darden from describing it and asking the jury rhetorically, “Wouldn’t you like to know what happened to that little bag?” He asked the same rhetorical question about the Louie Vuitton garment bag that Park didn’t recognize, the golf bag cover that Park didn’t recognize and the golf bag inside of the cover bag that Park didn’t recognize. The only bags that looked familiar to Park were the duffle bag and the “small duffle bag.” He loaded both of them in the passenger compartment with O.J. ………..This is what I mean by Marcia’s “shell game.” The light blue bag that O.J. picked up was useless because it wasn’t big enough to fit the shoes and the “sweat suit” so she kept it out of evidence and “replaced it” in the public mind with the small duffle bag that Park misidentified as one of TWO full duffle bags. If you hold Park’s count as sacred, the “missing bag” was “the other” full duffle bag. The skycap saw O.J. take the small one with him to the plane. So what did Rocky and Mario mean by “the bag?” They could only have meant the one everyone believes O.J. hand carried into the passenger compartment and the one he definitely carried out of it and with him to Chicago. –Jasper
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Joe, I am going to ask Brian Murray, Bob August, and Sweet Pea to Comment here on Your LongBow Papers Website Regarding this Statement by Jasper Garrison.
Now according to Mr. Garrison, in Jasper Garrison's OWN WORDS:
"The only bags that looked familiar to Park were the duffle bag and the “small duffle bag.” He loaded both of them in the passenger compartment with O.J."
Now did EVERYONE Get what Jasper Garrison just said????
HERE IT IS AGAIN:
"HE LOADED BOTH OF THEM IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT WITH OJ."
He (meaning Allan Park) and Both (meaning 2 bags).
OK. So Jasper Garrison says Allan park Loaded Both (2) bags in the passenger Compartment with OJ, and that's on the way to LAX the Night of June 12th, 1994.
BUT WAIT A MINUTE. OJ Simpson Testified that HE put 2 Bags in the Passenger section of the Limo right before his trip to LAX on the night of June 12th, 1994,
SO,
if Jasper Garrison is saying that Oj Simpson is telling the Truth in his Testimony, and Allan Park put 2 bags in the passenger Compartment, THAT MAKES a Minimum of 4 BAGS in the passenger Compartment with OJ Simpson on his way to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994,
UNLESS,
Jasper Garrison says (He Hasn't yet) that OJ Simpson LIED in his testimony, that would only make 2 or 3 Bags, and Possibly 4 Bags in the Passenger section of the Limo.
Now let me recap. If Jasper Garrison says that OJ Simpson is Telling the truth in his Testimony, there are 4 Bags and Possibly 5 or 6 Bags in the Passenger Section of the Limo that took O.J. Simpson to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994.
2 Bags were Loaded in the trunk of the Limo, according to Mr. Garrison, and OJ Simpson said their was a White Bag.
Let's see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2+2+2+ Maybe 1 + maybe 1 and Maybe = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EIGHT (8) BAGS??????????? or MORE???????
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But if OJ Simpson is LYING, Maybe 2, 3, or 4 Bags in the Passenger section of The Limo that took OJ Simpson to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994.
Joe, I know that you're healing up, so if you can Comment, GREAT, if Not, NO PROBLEM.
Bob, Brian, Sweet Pea and/or ANYONE else for that Matter,
WHAT'DA THINK??????
Mario G. Nitrini 111
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Mr Garrison?????? WHAT IS IT???? Did OJ Simpson "LIE" in his Testimony about him Putting 2 Bags in the Passenger Compartment of the Limo that took him to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994????? or were their 4 Bags in the Passenger Compartment of the Limo that Took OJ Simpson to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994????????? According to you Mr. Garrison, IT HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER. WHAT IS IT??????? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Why are you SO AFRAID to Legally Talk/Discuss/Debate me on "The Peking Duck"??????? I Know one reason. IT'S BECAUSE YOUR MARK FUHRMAN-DID-IT-SCENARIO-IS-BOGUS/UNTRUE/AN ALL-OUT-LIE.
And Mr. Garrison, if you feel "TO AFRAID" to Legally Talk/Discuss/Debate me on "The Peking Duck," How about doing it here on Joe's Website, The LongBow Papers???????
Mario G. Nitrini 111
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I put this Post of Brian Murray's from Sabbath's Website,
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also on "The Peking Duck"
Brian Murray
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:55 pm
It is quite apparent from reading Jasper’s post (to Sweetpea) about the bags that he has not read the testimony in a while. I will make comments and point out some inaccuracies in his post below. There were five bags entered into evidence in court:
1) Garment bag, evidence number: 1062 – 20754 116, with the initials "LV" (Louis Vuitton), brown. Called a hanging bag by Williams, Gucci bag by Park. In court Park identified it and said it was the bag he called a Gucci bag and when folded looked like a duffle bag.
2) Black golf bag, evidence number: 1063 –20756 116, with red Swiss Army insignia, containing golf clubs.
3) Black leather Duffle bag, evidence number: 1064 - 20775 116, OJ calls it a “grip”.
4) Black garment bag, evidence number: 1065 –20777 116, with initials "O.J.S." OJ calls it a suit bag. Park said he never saw this bag but did see another duffle bag. When shown this bag in court he said it could look like a duffle bag when it is folded.
5) Nylon bag (Missing bag), evidence number: 1066 – 20831 116, Briefcase size, blue in color with brown leather trim. The defense says this is the bag from behind the Bentley (even though it was obviously never used and still had the price tag and keys for the lock attached to it) but Kato and Parks said it was not the same bag. OJ said it may have been the bag from behind the Bentley but he wasn’t sure. Park said the bag behind the Bentley was smaller than a duffle bag, but was about 1.5’ wide X 1.5’ tall. Kato said it looked like a college book bag.
Re: Mario and Rocky
From: Jasper
Date: February 24, 2006
Time: 04:08 PM
Sweetpea,
The bag that O.J. wouldn't let anybody touch is the only one that matters???? The smallest bag that judge Ito allowed into evidence is the one I've been referring to here as a gym bag because most people are familiar with the dimensions. In the trial it was variously called a tote bag, a duffle bag and a small duffle bag. I referred to it in other posts as a small duffle bag. I call the one I have with roughly the same dimness a "carry-on bag." I don't think it has a standardized English Language name. (BRIAN: I am not sure which bag Jasper is talking about here. The smallest bag Ito allowed in court was evidence number 1066 which the defense said was the “missing bag” from behind the Bentley. I think Jasper is trying to intimate that this is the “Grip” or black leather duffle bag. There was no bag ever described as a gym bag. In court they called the “Grip” a “Small duffle bag” at times.) In any event, it's the bag Marcia played up to imply that the prosecution KNEW where O.J. put the missing items from the murders (BRIAN: Marcia always said the “Tote bag” or “book bag” from behind the Bentley was the one OJ had by the trash can. This came from Park’s testimony about seeing a bag on top of the can and the “grip” over OJ’s shoulder. Williams never saw a bag on the can but did see OJ near the can) It's the bag she used the LAX skycap James Williams to suggest how O.J. disposed of it. She hinted that O.J. slipped THAT BAG in the trash container near Williams’ podium. It is the only one Marcia could have been referring to when she said the following in her 9-17-95 summation:
"You may recall that there was testimony about a small dark bag that was on the edge of the driveway by the Bentley. And Kato, as they were loading up the bags, offered to go and get that bag for him. "I'll go get that for you." The Defendant said, "No, no, no, no, no. I'll get it." And the testimony was that all of the bags were loaded by either Kato or Allan Park except for that one. And after the Defendant walked towards it, after saying, "No, I'll get it," after he walked towards it, no one ever saw that little black, dark bag again. Nor have we ever found the knife the Defendant used nor have we ever found the clothes that he wore during the murder nor have we ever found the shoes that he wore during the murder."
Here's the good part; O.J. said that he had a small bag that he put his golf ball bag inside of then put in his golf bag. Kato put the golf bag in the trunk with the garment bag.
(BRIAN: OJ said he picked up two bags from behind the Bentley. One small white bag with golf balls in it which he put inside the house. The other bag is the “missing bag” that he said he put golf balls and a wind breaker into which Park testified was 1.5’ X 1.5’. He never said he had a “small bag he put his golf ball bag into”. He then said he consolidated this “missing” bag into his golf bag at LAX, behind the limo, while signing autographs. The autograph seekers don’t recall seeing this though. Kato did not put the garment bag (evidence number 1065) in the trunk, only the golf bag which is the only bag Kato loaded. OJ said he told Park to put the garment bag in the trunk but Park said he never saw the garment bag.)
The small bag (not the small duffle bag big enough for Rocky's “papers”), is the one O.J. told Kato he would get. (BRIAN: Not sure what the “small bag” is that Jasper mentions here) It wasn’t missing from the bags that went into the limo. It was missing only from the courtroom because Chris Darden and Marcia Clark succeed in having it excluded. (BRIAN: The defense brought in a bag that was obviously not the same one from behind the Bentley. It still had the price tag on it and keys for the lock attached to the handle. As far as I know from the testimony no bags were excluded) That didn’t stop Darden from describing it and asking the jury rhetorically, “Wouldn’t you like to know what happened to that little bag?” He asked the same rhetorical question about the Louie (sic) Vuitton garment bag that Park didn’t recognize, (BRIAN: he did recognize this bag in court and agreed that he misidentified it as a Gucci bag) the golf bag cover that Park didn’t recognize and the golf bag inside of the cover bag that Park didn’t recognize. The only bags that looked familiar to Park were the duffle bag and the “small duffle bag.” He loaded both of them in the passenger compartment with O.J. (BRIAN: the only bags Park said he put in the car was the Louis Vuitton bag in the trunk and the duffle bag, or grip (evidence number 1064), he said OJ told him to put in the car)
This is what I mean by Marcia’s “shell game.” The light blue bag that O.J. picked up was useless because it wasn’t big enough to fit the shoes and the “sweat suit” (BRIAN: the bag testified to in court that was behind the Bentley was big enough but was not the same bag that the defense brought to court and said was the bag from behind the Bentley) so she kept it out of evidence and “replaced it” in the public mind with the small duffle bag that Park misidentified as one of TWO full duffle bags. If you hold Park’s count as sacred, the “missing bag” was “the other” full duffle bag (BRIAN: if you read all of Park’s and Kato’s testimony from the different trials and grand jury it is quite clear that the bag from behind the Bentley was not the bag introduced in court and was “missing” and was definitely not the “Grip” OJ carried on the plane.) The skycap saw O.J. take the small one with him to the plane (BRIAN: Williams testified that OJ only had his “Grip” with him when he saw OJ walk into the terminal. Williams did not remember the “Suit bag/garment bag with OJS monogram, and said he only checked the golf bag and Louis Vuitton bag.) So what did Rocky and Mario mean by “the bag”? They could only have meant the one everyone believes O.J. hand carried into the passenger compartment and the one he definitely carried out of it and with him to Chicago.
Jasper
BRIAN: Jasper did a good job of playing his own “shell game” with the testimony about the bags here. If you read every bit of testimony about the bags it is clear that the bag behind the Bentley, or “missing bag” is the one OJ said he consolidated into his golf bag at the airport. The “missing bag” was not the same bag introduced in court, which I assume is the bag Jasper says Marcia kept out of evidence.
The black leather duffle bag, or grip, which Jasper says that Mario is talking about, was positively identified in court by everyone, including Park, and was different than the “missing bag”. This is very clear in the testimony. The other duffle bag Park testified to was most likely the garment bag with OJ’s monogram because he said he did not see this bag that night but agreed, when shown the garment bag in court, that when it is folded it looks like a duffle bag.
Brian
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Mario G. Nitrini The 3rd
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:39 pm
Here again is Japer Garrison's Post of Febuary 24th,2006 directed to Sweet Pea:
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Re: Mario and Rocky
From: Jasper
Date: February 24, 2006
Time: 04:08 PM
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Sweetpea, ?The bag that ?O.J. wouldn?t let anybody touch? is the only one that matters. ????The smallest bag that judge Ito allowed into evidence is the one I?ve been referring to here as a ?gym bag? because most people are familiar with the dimensions. In the trial it was variously called a tote bag, a duffle bag and a small duffle bag. I referred to it in other posts as a small duffle bag. I call the one I have with roughly the same dimness a ?carry-on bag.? I don?t think it has a standardized English Language name. ????.In any event, it?s the bag Marcia played up to imply that the prosecution KNEW where O.J. put the missing items from the murders. It?s the bag she used the LAX skycap James Williams to suggest how O.J. disposed of it. She hinted that O.J. slipped THAT BAG in the trash container near Williams? podium. It is the only one Marcia could have been referring to when she said the following in her 9-17-?95 summation: ??You may recall that there was testimony about a small dark bag that was on the edge of the driveway by the Bentley. And Kato, as they were loading up the bags, offered to go and get that bag for him. ?I'll go get that for you.? The Defendant said, ?No, no, no, no, no. I'll get it.? And the testimony was that all of the bags were loaded by either Kato or Allan Park except for that one. And after the Defendant walked towards it, after saying, ?No, I'll get it,? after he walked towards it, no one ever saw that little black, dark bag again. Nor have we ever found the knife the Defendant used nor have we ever found the clothes that he wore during the murder nor have we ever found the shoes that he wore during the murder.? ???.Here?s the good part?O.J. said that he had a small bag that he put his golf ball bag inside of then put in his golf bag. Kato put the golf bag in the trunk with the garment bag. The small bag (not the small duffle bag big enough for Rocky?s ?papers?), is the one O.J. told Kato he would get. It wasn?t missing from the bags that went into the limo. It was missing only from the courtroom because Chris Darden and Marcia Clark succeed in having it excluded. That didn?t stop Darden from describing it and asking the jury rhetorically, ?Wouldn?t you like to know what happened to that little bag?? He asked the same rhetorical question about the Louie Vuitton garment bag that Park didn?t recognize, the golf bag cover that Park didn?t recognize and the golf bag inside of the cover bag that Park didn?t recognize. The only bags that looked familiar to Park were the duffle bag and the ?small duffle bag.? He loaded both of them in the passenger compartment with O.J. ???..This is what I mean by Marcia?s ?shell game.? The light blue bag that O.J. picked up was useless because it wasn?t big enough to fit the shoes and the ?sweat suit? so she kept it out of evidence and ?replaced it? in the public mind with the small duffle bag that Park misidentified as one of TWO full duffle bags. If you hold Park?s count as sacred, the ?missing bag? was ?the other? full duffle bag. The skycap saw O.J. take the small one with him to the plane. So what did Rocky and Mario mean by ?the bag?? They could only have meant the one everyone believes O.J. hand carried into the passenger compartment and the one he definitely carried out of it and with him to Chicago. ?Jasper
Now here again are my words:
Now according to Mr. Garrison, in Jasper Garrison's OWN WORDS:
"The only bags that looked familiar to Park were the duffle bag and the ?small duffle bag.? He loaded both of them in the passenger compartment with O.J."
Now did EVERYONE Get what Jasper Garrison just said????
HERE IT IS AGAIN:
"HE LOADED BOTH OF THEM IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT WITH OJ."
He (meaning Allan Park) and Both (meaning 2 bags).
OK, Jasper Garrison has said, IN HIS OWN WORDS,
"HE LOADED BOTH OF THEM IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT WITH OJ."
Now, Jasper Garrison has stated that there are "AT LEAST 2 Bags" that were in The Passenger section of The Limo that took OJ Simpson to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994.
Here is a Post of Jasper Garrison's Today:
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Re: Blue Bag -- New Ballgame,
From: Jasper
Date: February 28, 2006
Time: 03:37 PM
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Jean, ……..That’s it! The key thing in all of the shell shifting Marcia did with the bags was her incriminating INTERPRETATION of what O.J. said and did with respect to the BLUE bag. Without it, none of the bags mean anything. Marcia had to transform the blue bag into the black one O.J. carried to the airport because that was the only bag he could have had in the passenger compartment when he got out of the limo. If you work through the possibilities of O.J. putting the blue bag in a secret compartment, you get a bag that could not have contained the missing shoes and “sweats” because a “secret” compartment would have been too thin. If it were outside of a hidden compartment (secret or not) Park would have seen it at LAX when he got the large duffle bag out of the limo. …………Park saw the blue bag only briefly from about 20 feet away when O.J. went to get it. If O.J. put it anywhere other than in the golf bag cover, Park would have seen it again. Kato was standing between him and O.J. when O.J. handed the bag cover with the golf bag inside of it to Kato. The cover had to have been open because Park saw part of the golf bag and the clubs inside of it. If O.J. stuffed the blue bag in the golf bag cover when Kato was blocking Park’s view and Park was fumbling with the garment bag in the trunk, Park would not have seen it but it could have been nowhere else. …………..The hidden compartment in St. John’s limo was big enough to contain the loaded black bag but only the word “secret” gives it a sinister meaning. Maria couldn’t go there because the blue bag was not the one O.J. took out of the limo and it contradicted her implication that it was the same bag O.J. “wouldn’t let anyone touch.” The blue bag is exculpatory – switch or no switch. Its very existence destroys Marcia’s word picture of O.J. picking up the black bag behind the Bentley in suspicious way and carrying it to the skycap stand by a trashcan. That’s why she didn’t want the jurors to see it. –Jasper
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Let me "HIGHLIGHT"
Jean, ……..That’s it! The key thing in all of the shell shifting Marcia did with the bags was her incriminating INTERPRETATION of what O.J. said and did with respect to the BLUE bag. Without it, none of the bags mean anything. Marcia had to transform the blue bag into the black one O.J. carried to the airport because that was the only bag he could have had in the passenger compartment when he got out of the limo.
NOW, did EVERYONE just see what Jasper Garrison said??????? and I Quote Mr. Garrison:
" Marcia had to transform the blue bag into the black one O.J. carried to the airport BECAUSE THAT WAS THE "ONLY BAG" HE COULD HAVE HAD IN THE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT WHEN HE GOT OUT OF TE LIMO."
Jasper Garrison has JUST SAID that OJ Simpson got out of The Limo "WITH ONLY ONE BAG."
Now even Jasper Garrison can Figure this Equation out. What is 2 MINUS 1????????? 1 as in at LEAST 1 Bag, according to Jasper Garrison, was Left in The Limo by OJ Simpson when he (Simpson) got out of the Limo at LAX.
More of Jasper Garrsion:
"Maria couldn’t go there because the blue bag was not the one O.J. took out of the limo"
Jasper Garrison uses the WORD "ONE" as in "Bag."
So, according to Jasper Garrison, OJ Simpson left a Minimum of 1 Bag in the Limo that took Him (Simpson) to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994.
And What Happened to at least 1 bag that OJ Simpson Left in the Limo that took him to LAX the night of June 12th, 1994???? Eventually, Rocky Bateman Unloaded it's content's and the bag in a lake.
Mario G. Nitrini 111
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Hi Joe,
"AMAZING" what a Little Exposure can do.
I have been Posting Certain Posts from Brian Murray and MORE about this "BAG" situation in The OJ Simpson Case here and on "The Peking Duck" from Sabbath's Website,
www.dumb-ass.net Forum Index » The Simpson Conspiracy.
"AMAZING" what a Little Exposure can do.
By the Way Joe, HOW ARE YOU FEELING????????????>>>>>>LOL. You KNOW where I'm Coming from.
MORE:
Brian Murray
Joined: 13 Feb 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:42 am
Mario,
As you know the bag situation was, and is, very confusing. I oversimplified some things in my post above where I made comments in Jaspers post. Basically Jasper is saying that OJ put the blue/black bag with tan patch, knapsack, book bag, grip (different than his black leather grip) or other little bag (two different names which OJ called it at one point or other; see below), missing bag, bag from behind the Bentley with golf balls and a wind breaker, into the golf bag while still at Rockingham before leaving for the airport. I have no idea how he got this wrong. Just using OJ’s own testimony below it is clear he had the “missing bag” in the back of the limo on the way to the airport. He says he consolidated the “missing bag” into the golf bag at the back of the limo after arriving at the airport.
Q: When you passed the front door and dropped down that white bag, at that point in time you had no further bags in your hand?
A: That's correct.
A: I grabbed those things and got into the limo.
Q: What did you grab?
A: Everything that was sitting between the benches.
Q: What were those items?
A: My grip, a little--the other bag, and I believe the windbreaker.
Q: "The other bag"--
A: The jacket, yeah.
Q: "The other bag" being the bag with the windbreaker and the golf balls?
A: That's correct.
Q: And so Park never put that bag in the trunk?
A: No.
Q: And you never had him take the golf bag out and put it into the golf bag?
A: We never got to that, no.
Q: At no time did you say to either Mr. Park or Mr. Kaelin not to handle a particular bag?
A: No.
Q: So you had in the back seat with you the windbreaker (NOTE: this is a different windbreaker than the one in the “missing bag”), the grip and the other bag?
A: Yes, I believe so.
Pettroceli asks if OJ was surprised they didn’t put the bags in the car (grip, windbreaker, other bag)
Q: Were you surprised when you came back out and saw that they were still there?
A: No.
Q: Why not?
A: Because they didn't look like bags, I would think for me. I know what the bags are, so I'm influenced by it. One is a grip that I had all my personal things in. It was laying there open, and I was going in and out of it. And the other was a windbreaker, and I just assumed--I can't make an assumption for them, but it's--when I was looking at it, I pulled my ticket out to make sure my ticket was there, so maybe he just assumed it was my bag. I don't know. I don't know.
Q: The windbreaker and the grip, but then there was another bag there.
A: Yeah, but it was a little bag; it wasn't a big bag, and it was put with these two bags. So I don't know. You'd have to ask them. I can't think for them. (NOTE: here OJ is confusing the issue. He says the “little bag” or “missing bag” was put with two other bags. But just previously he said there was only his grip and a windbreaker???)
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NOTE: OJ talking about the “missing bag” when Petrocelli showed him a picture of the bag that was introduced into evidence (evidence number 1066):
MR. KELLY: I am sorry. I couldn't hear you.
THE WITNESS: Grip.
MR. KELLY: A grip bag?
BY MR. PETROCELLI:
Q: What color is that bag?
A: It looks to be blue and sort of leatherish].
Q: Now, is that the bag that you took into the back seat with you that had the golf balls and the windbreaker?
A: I believe so.
Q: That's it?
A: I believe so.
Q: Is there any uncertainty in your mind?
A: Well, it wasn't one of my regular bags, so I'm assuming that was the bag.
Q: This was one of your regular travel bag bags?
A: Was not.
Q: I am sorry. I missed your answer.
"Well, it wasn't one of my regular bags, so I'm assuming that was the bag."
Why were you assuming this is the bag that you took with you?
A: Because it looks like the type of bag that was there, and it was what I saw in the courtroom.
Q: And that was the bag that you retrieved initially that evening from the Bentley trunk?
A: Yes.
Q: Did you have any other bags with you, other than the ones we have now described?
A: No.
Q: In the back of the limo did you do anything with these two bags, the grip and this Exhibit 26 bag?
A: No.
Q: Did you look into the bags?
A: Yes.
Q: For what purpose?
A: See what airlines I was going on to tell--make sure the driver know and just, you know, get my ticket out, tear it out of the thing so I can carry it, close up the bag, put my cell phone in its case. You know, do the whole thing, that kind of stuff.
Q: And you did all that in your black grip bag. Right?
A: Yes.
Q: Did you look into this other bag at all?
A: No.
Q: Where was it?
A: Sitting on the floor, sitting on the seat next to me.
Q: What kind of car was it?
A: Stretch limo.
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NOTE: OJ at LAX says he consolidates the “missing bag” into the golf bag:
Q: At any time before you got on that airplane, did you consolidate any of your luggage?
A: Yes.
Q: When did you do that?
A: When we got to the airport.
Q: Did you do that where the limo driver pulled up to get the skycap?
A: Yes.
Q: What did you consolidate into what?
A: I put my balls in my golf bag, and I put balls--and I think I took the windbreaker and put it in my golf bag.
Q: Let me back up a bit. You had this bluish bag, right, which had the wind- breaker and the new maxfli 100s?
A: Yes.
Q: Tell me, did you take that bag with the Maxfli 100s and the wind-breaker and put it into another bag?
A: Yes.
Q: What bag did you put it into?
A: My golf bag.
Q: Opened up the golf cover bag and put it in.
A: Yes.
Q: So where did you do this consolidation of the luggage? While the luggage was in the trunk?
A: No. I had taken it out of the trunk, and while I was standing out of the trunk and some guys were asking me for an autograph standing there, and I was doing it while they were standing there talking to me.
Q: Out of the trunk on the ground?
A: On the ground, yes.
Q: And did you do any other luggage consolidation?
A: No.
So just using OJ’s own testimony it is clear that he had the “missing bag” in the back of the limo. I will post the testimony from the two guys seeking OJ’s autograph later. They both say they did not see OJ “consolidate” the “missing bag” into the golf bag. These two guys were there when the limo pulled up, watched OJ get out with his grip only, take the golf bag out of the trunk, saw Park put the golf bag on the cart and take it away, but never saw OJ put another bag into the golf bag.
Brian
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Mario G. Nitrini The 3rd
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 342
Location: Reseda, california
Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:10 pm
Thanks Brain.
Reading OJ Simpson's Testimony AGAIN, I Really can't see how Jasper Garrison got this Particular Scenario WRONG.
The Only thing I can see, It's a "Trixsie" Desperation move on his part with ANOTHER attempt to Discredit me so his Mark Fuhrman-did-it-GARBAGE can Work. IT CAN'T, NO WAY.
Brian, this bag situation is Complicated and Complex, but for me, IT IS Critical to try and Nail down it's happenings in The OJ Simpson Case.
Thanks.
I'm still not sure, with OJ Simpson's testimony, "HOW MANY" bags He (Simpson) says he has in The Passenger Section of The Limo that took him to LAX he night of June 12th, 1994. What's Your Count????
Mario G. Nitrini 111
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Mario G. Nitrini 111
Joe,
I tried to Copy and Paste some Posts just made over the last few days and today from a person named "Justice" from ALT.FAN.OJ here. It Won't Take.
It has to do with Jill Shively.
YOU NEED TO CHECK IT OUT/or Do you Already know about this???????
IT'S SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mario G. Nitrini 111
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